Banjo - hub outer seals
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Banjo - hub outer seals
As most od us knows the inner side of front wheel hub is protected by pretty complicated set up including felt ring, rubber ring with groove, spring, paper seal and few other steel elements.
I have installed new French afterwar seals (felt, rubber ring, spring), five years and 5000 miles later while doing routine maitenance I have discovered that springs have rusted to the point that they break easly and rubber disintegrated, I have ordered new sets but since they have been gathering dust on the shelf for many years the rubber doesn't seem to last for long and springs most probably will rust soon. So I have found company who manufactures rubber seals (NBR) to any given specification and other company who makes stainless steel springs. As it happens I had to order ten pieces of each so if anyone is interested I would be happy to supply them.
I have installed new French afterwar seals (felt, rubber ring, spring), five years and 5000 miles later while doing routine maitenance I have discovered that springs have rusted to the point that they break easly and rubber disintegrated, I have ordered new sets but since they have been gathering dust on the shelf for many years the rubber doesn't seem to last for long and springs most probably will rust soon. So I have found company who manufactures rubber seals (NBR) to any given specification and other company who makes stainless steel springs. As it happens I had to order ten pieces of each so if anyone is interested I would be happy to supply them.
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
jakub,I knew there is this seal in rear axle.Is there too in the front?
I am restoring mine rear hubs(inner & outer nut,lock,etc).See the pic.
http://yfrog.com/2oimagem225j

http://yfrog.com/2oimagem225j
Jeep Willys MB DoD dec,16 1942 s/n:196275
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
http://yfrog.com/nbimagem226j
Today I installed the rear left hub.Reading the TM9-801 I saw that the banjo front axle is without leather seal.The correct with leather seal is the banjo rear axle.
Today I installed the rear left hub.Reading the TM9-801 I saw that the banjo front axle is without leather seal.The correct with leather seal is the banjo rear axle.
Jeep Willys MB DoD dec,16 1942 s/n:196275
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
http://yfrog.com/5limagem228j---- Rear Hub wrench.(not original-hand made)
http://yfrog.com/nbimagem229j----Rear Left Brake Drum.(with rust inside)
http://yfrog.com/nbimagem229j----Rear Left Brake Drum.(with rust inside)
Jeep Willys MB DoD dec,16 1942 s/n:196275
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
Jeep Willys MB DoD dec,16 1942 s/n:196275
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
Fernando, nice job on the wrench.
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Ford F15A (4)
Chev C15A (2)
Ben Hur Fuel Transfer
Polynor Trailer
Drone Winch Trailer
GE Searchlight
Nekaf
1953 M38A1
Telephone Reel Hand Cart
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101 CDN-2 (2)
WW2 Water Trailer
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
Thanks Barry.After I will make the other side of this wrench to operate in the front axle.Here in Brazil is very difficult to get original parts.Regards. 

Jeep Willys MB DoD dec,16 1942 s/n:196275
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
jakub,
What are you asking for a set of the front seals? Thanks!
Remember Christ,
Daniel
What are you asking for a set of the front seals? Thanks!
Remember Christ,
Daniel
Daniel Lautenschlager
Red Ball Express Parts
1670 Centre St.
Rapid City SD 57703 USA
Red Ball Express Parts
1670 Centre St.
Rapid City SD 57703 USA
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
Hello Daniel
For stainless springs I've paid 8 euro, rubber was 13 euro each, so they worked out much more than NOS spare set, also the set also includes bit of felt and paper seal. Having said that I've installed NOS parts five years ago and springs rusted away and rubber disintegrated. I hope that new setup will last longer and quality of rubber will prevent water from getting in.
Just to be sure because I have sneaky suspicion that not everyone understands which part I am taking about:
front axle, banjo type, ends with ball type surface, over this surface there is big, heay, pot like part to which hub is monted, going towards differnetial we have paper seal, steel retainer, felt seal, rubber ring, spring going into groove inside rubber ring, two half circular plates, final steel retainer.
Parts which I had remanufactured are rubber ring and spring.
For stainless springs I've paid 8 euro, rubber was 13 euro each, so they worked out much more than NOS spare set, also the set also includes bit of felt and paper seal. Having said that I've installed NOS parts five years ago and springs rusted away and rubber disintegrated. I hope that new setup will last longer and quality of rubber will prevent water from getting in.
Just to be sure because I have sneaky suspicion that not everyone understands which part I am taking about:
front axle, banjo type, ends with ball type surface, over this surface there is big, heay, pot like part to which hub is monted, going towards differnetial we have paper seal, steel retainer, felt seal, rubber ring, spring going into groove inside rubber ring, two half circular plates, final steel retainer.
Parts which I had remanufactured are rubber ring and spring.
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yeah i had to piece the spring on mine back together by welding in a piece of vinyl coated cable ... crazy hard!!!! I would be interested buying 2 or 3 sets if you have them - let me know
thanks!
Remember Christ,
Daniel

Remember Christ,
Daniel
Daniel Lautenschlager
Red Ball Express Parts
1670 Centre St.
Rapid City SD 57703 USA
Red Ball Express Parts
1670 Centre St.
Rapid City SD 57703 USA
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Re: Banjo - hub outer seals
still got few left, please mail me