Hydrovac Care

Questions and requests about Technical Repairs of the CCKW
Post Reply
joel gopan
Brigadier General
Brigadier General
Posts: 2493
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:10 am
Location: Hampden, ME

Hydrovac Care

Post by joel gopan »

Do not forget to give your Hydrovac a shot of OHT (Available from RAM, a popular and knowledgeable character appearing on another forum) this adds life to your Hydrovac.
I was taught by a gentleman from Maine who worked for Bendix and helped develop their Hydrovac in the early thirties, to pump the brake pedal several times after engine shutdown, to exhaust the vacuum still in the Hydrovac. What could happen is that the seal for the relay rod may be worn and that would allow the brake fluid to be drawn into the Hydrovac can. Has anyone had the fluid in their CCKW Master cylinder disappear overnight, and not find any sign of leak? Now you know. Cyril Morrison was a Motor Sargeant in the Pacific, and instructed his drivers to practice this habit. Cyril was a gentleman and worked into his eighties repairing brakes, he gave me many tips on the care and adjustment of brakes on GMC and Jeep.
Last edited by joel gopan on Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
44 MB 356378- 54 M-38A1-41 CCKW 352-51 M-37-42TW6-45MBT-43 M1 BOMB LIFT (WEAVER)- RECORD SETTING HONOR GRADUATE Wheeled Vehicle Mechanics School, U.S. ARMY 1960 - US ARMY ORDNANCE SCHOOL 1962 - MVPA 1064 - RED BALL CHAPTER - PHONY VETERAN HEADHUNTER - ARMY FIXED & ROTARY WING MECHANIC/CREWCHIEF-STILL FIT WARBIRD COCKPITS
dr deuce
Brigadier General
Brigadier General
Posts: 2400
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:10 am
Location: Pembroke NH
Contact:

Post by dr deuce »

Good idea (bleeding off the vacume) that most of us forget to do....

Remember to set the parking brake if you do this as you will have no brakes until the engine starts.

If you have had a leak (engine eating brake fluid), check the check valve on the manifold. I may be all gunked up inside and allow fumes to enter the hydrovac. I had one a couple years ago. I could not believe how much gunk was in it!

Steve AKA Dr Deuce
Dr Deuce Over 50,000 driven miles in a CCKW
1942 CCKW closed cab shopvan
1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
1944 CCKW open cab LeRoi Kompressor
1944 CCKW open cab F1 Aircraft fueler tanker
1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
1942 Chev cargo
1942 Chev K51 Panel
1944 Chev M6 Bomb Truck
1942 GPW Jeep
http://home.comcast.net/~cckw/wsb/html/ ... 59870.html
User avatar
Brent Delaney
Sergeant
Sergeant
Posts: 24
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:10 am
Location: Wellington, NewZealand.

Post by Brent Delaney »

Thanks Joel and Steve,
Good tips, our cckw 353 B1 is losing fluid and I suspected the hydrovac to be the culprit, quite annoying as it is a nos straight out of the silver paper.

Just to note that this truck stops on a dime when the brakes are working ok, I will be changing my H1 brakes to a dual circuit when the time comes as a friend of mine has done, he used a japanese late model dual circuit master cylinder I think he also used a modern booster as well :shock:

But I look at it this way, if the truck was still in active service what do you think they would be doing in the year 2005 :?: Yep modifying and updating components that made the vehicle more safe/reliable and the parts are bought over the counter. Not NOS that has long dried out and perished (found that out the hard way) some NOS parts are only good for looking at or worse :wink:

Ah that feels better, I had a bad day at work damaged the breakpress in the sheetmetal shop :oops: honest mistake easyfix thankfully.

Cheers,

Brent Delaney
joel gopan
Brigadier General
Brigadier General
Posts: 2493
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:10 am
Location: Hampden, ME

Post by joel gopan »

FYI, the Bendix 3rd Series Hydrovac is still a current and modern Hydrovac used on a lot of vehicles, it is BENDIX PN 374750, and the factory rebuilts are done with fresh present day components. I will upgrade 1st Series as soon as the 1st indication of leakage or failure is evident, maybe sooner.
Joel
44 MB 356378- 54 M-38A1-41 CCKW 352-51 M-37-42TW6-45MBT-43 M1 BOMB LIFT (WEAVER)- RECORD SETTING HONOR GRADUATE Wheeled Vehicle Mechanics School, U.S. ARMY 1960 - US ARMY ORDNANCE SCHOOL 1962 - MVPA 1064 - RED BALL CHAPTER - PHONY VETERAN HEADHUNTER - ARMY FIXED & ROTARY WING MECHANIC/CREWCHIEF-STILL FIT WARBIRD COCKPITS
Frank Bogers
Private First Class
Private First Class
Posts: 13
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:10 am
Location: Voeren, Belgium

Post by Frank Bogers »

What's OHT Joel ??
And how can I tell if the one on my '43 353 is a series 1 or a series 3?
And are they interchangeable?

Maybe it can be read on the thing itself ... I must admit that I haven't looked yet :oops:
I've only recently bought this truck and I've started overhauling it.
I'll have and want to overhaul the brake system too.
My brake pedal can be pressed to the floor and stays there (with the engine running).
But the brakes do function and when I pull back the brakepedal by hand, the brakes release ... so my guess is a brake pedal linkage or even a master brake cylinder concern.

I'll keep you posted on what I find.
1943 CCKW353 - closed cab w/o winch
1964 M35A2 - w/o winch
www.qrz.com/on9cc/
Fernando Mendes
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 762
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:29 pm
Location: Santiago-RS-Brasil

Re: Hydrovac Care

Post by Fernando Mendes »

joel gopan wrote:Do not forget to give your Hydrovac a shot of OHT (Available from RAM, a popular and knowledgeable character appearing on another forum) this adds life to your Hydrovac.
I was taught by a gentleman from Maine who worked for Bendix and helped develop their Hydrovac in the early thirties, to pump the brake pedal several times after engine shutdown, to exhaust the vacuum still in the Hydrovac. What could happen is that the seal for the relay rod may be worn and that would allow the brake fluid to be drawn into the Hydrovac can. Has anyone had the fluid in their CCKW Master cylinder disappear overnight, and not find any sign of leak? Now you know. Cyril Morrison was a Motor Sargeant in the Pacific, and instructed his drivers to practice this habit. Cyril was a gentleman and worked into his eighties repairing brakes, he gave me many tips on the care and adjustment of brakes on GMC and Jeep.
Jeep Willys MB DoD dec,16 1942 s/n:196275
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
Fernando Mendes
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 762
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:29 pm
Location: Santiago-RS-Brasil

Re: Hydrovac Care

Post by Fernando Mendes »

Who knows OHT? :?:
Jeep Willys MB DoD dec,16 1942 s/n:196275
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
CCKW 353 Banjo 1944 s/n:309623
Post Reply