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CCKW early dash instrument question

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:51 pm
by robc
Have been offered a early dash cluster, but unsure of the following on this cluster:

Oil pressure gauge range is from 0 to 30psi, manual for my CCKWX states oil pressure whilst driving should be around 33 to 40psi.

Engine temp gauge appears to be carpillary tube, manual indicates a electrical sender and gauge.

Should it have GMC marked on dash?

Any help would be appreciated, I am trying to convert my CCKWX back to this early system, at present it has the later 5 seperate gauges.

Thanks in advance

Rob

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:17 pm
by dr deuce
It is a Cheby. Oil pressure gives it away

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:18 am
by robc
Thanks Dr Deuce, thats cleared that up.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:56 pm
by thierryb
On my August 1941 cckw352 truck, oil pressure ranges from 40 to 80 psi. The temperature gauge is operated with an electrical sender + wire but doesn’t work. Does anyone of you guys know how to test if rather the sender or the gauge is out of order? Also, do you know of a parts source for for those early temp gauges/sender ?
I found another spare dash cluster that came for sure from another early GMC truck ; on this one the temperature unit is the capillary type. Unfortunately the tube has been cut just a few inches from the gauge :cry: This would mean that both systems were probably used on early trucks!?!?! Any information on that :?:
Is the fuel level sender the same as on the standard round military gauge?
Pictures of both dash clusters can be seen at : http://thierry.becker.free.fr/GMCcckw352B1-1941.htm Picture 4 shows the unit mounted on the truck that has an electrical sender ; picture 5 shows the spare cluster I have that has the capillary temp unit.


Thierry

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:08 pm
by dr deuce
I think if you ground the wire or open the wire it should read max and min though I am not sure which way is which. Just touch it to ground though, don't hold it there.

If it is the same as the later 50's senders, I may have one you can have.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:42 pm
by thierryb
Thank you Steve... Will try this next time I'll go to work on the truck..


Thierry.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:42 pm
by robc
A manual I have for the CCKWX shows in the electrical diagram, the circuit for the temp. gauge & sender, is it possible the Chevy dash was the capillary type, and used in the GMC if the electrical unit failed ??

CCKW early dash instrument question

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:17 pm
by ducatti
Thierry,

If you are still looking for a eletrical temp sender, see: http://www.egauges.com

Can you let me know where the electric sender is installed in the engine?
I´m converting my truck to the electrical system and it only has the mechanical type, with port in rear of cyl head.

Thanks,

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:28 pm
by thierryb
Hi Ducatti,

I don’t have the truck here so I can’t say now where the sending unit is located, but as many as I can remember it is on the same location as the capillary unit, on the rear end of the engine.
I found a NOS capillary Unit here in France. It works great so I think I’ll put it on the truck. Have you already bought a sending unit and does it work on your truck? If so, what is the part number of that unit?

ThierryB.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:35 pm
by joel gopan
Electrical sending unit originally went on the thermostat housing on CCKWs up to Chassis Number 41189.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:12 am
by ducatti
Thierry,

I found a sender in the USA ( egauge.com). Just received it and did not tested yet, but it has the right specs for the gauge
See the one with 0-30 ohms:
http://www.egauges.com/vdo_send.asp?Sen ... sic_30ohms


Joel,
My termostat housing has no port.
Would be possible to install in the elbow to the steam tube?

thanks,
Ducatti

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:15 am
by joel gopan
It can be installed at the fitting on the Cylinder head that is normally used for the mechanical guage. I do have a CCKWHX thermostat housing stored away.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:12 pm
by thierryb
Ducatti,

I’m a bit lost…The link you've posted is for a fuel level unit, not temperature :cry:


Thierry.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:34 pm
by ducatti
Thierry,

Sorry for the confusion.

Here is the correct link for the temp sender I´ve bought:

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_send.asp?Sender=Classic_Temp

Part number: SN24

Regards,
Ducatti

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:54 am
by thierryb
COOL...many thanks...

Let us know if it work and I'll order one too...


Thierry.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:27 pm
by robc
Recently purchased a complete early dash cluster, the seller told me this was removed from a CCW which he had cut up :( , he said nobody wanted the 6 x 4, they wanted 6 x 6 trucks, any way the temp. gauge is the capillary tube type, was this original or changed at some later, possible post war.
I also bought a wiring harness, NOS in box, its the engine/dash harness, when I checked through, found this to be a harness for early GMC, only 2 panel lamp bulb holders, also has cable for engine temp. sensor, this was bought for my Shop Van, but will fit my CCKWX better :lol: .