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Modern equivalent for rear lug nuts?

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:16 pm
by 6x6 Dinosaur
Yesterday I made my own tool to take off the inner nut for my rear wheels and while it fits and didn't break at all I can't budge the inner nuts at all. I think it may be because the truck was sitting 7-8 years before I got it,the tires are in so poor shape that I can't even drive it to my local tire shop to see what they say and my dad also thinks they will not have the tools to take off the nut as I also tried to fit an impact socket and it would not fit. I'm going to try one last thing using an impact wrench and if that doesn't work...... :shock: I have not planned that far really. I would like to know if there is a modern lug nut equivalent for the rear wheels that does away with the inner nut or do/should I just keep working at it with what I have?

Re: Modern equivalent for rear lug nuts?

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:40 pm
by Bill_Wolf
Mr Dinosaur,

A couple of suggestions.

Budd style tools (sockets) are readily available on Ebay cheap to remove the outer nuts and inner nuts on the CCKW. A 3/4 inch socket on a bar with an 8 foot pipe as a persuader has worked in the past until I found a great deal on a 3/4 inch impact on Craigslist.

Put the penetrating oil to it to help loosen it up. Multiple times...

You aware that the nuts on the drivers side are reverse thread. I have been there and made that mistake :oops:

The "fire wrench" may have to be used to break the rust bond on the threads. Don't over do it. Several heat ups and cool downs can help. A budd socket on 3/4 inch impact while it is warm can help

I would continue to use the original configuration on the lug bolts/nuts. Loosening and re-tightening every few years will overcome the rust issue.

Good luck.

Re: Modern equivalent for rear lug nuts?

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:12 pm
by 6x6 Dinosaur
Oh God what a dumbass I am! I simply assumed that since the truck was 70 years old the inner lug nut would be some obsolete thing. That changes quite a bit of things and I have an odd feeling my local independent auto part store will have it,if not ebay. And yes I did know the front tires were reverse thread and thank God I have a tech manual or I would have done the same thing. Thanks very much Bill Wolf and I really deserve a Gibb slap for that one! :D [Big NCIS fan]

Re: Modern equivalent for rear lug nuts?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:39 pm
by Cat Man
Bill's advise is good. Get on eof the combination impact sockets for Budd rims.

The thimbles (inner nut) and outer nust are the same ar the M-35 series trucks. If you absolutly can't get one looose and have to torch it off, I have some late model take off extra's. PM me

Cat Man

Re: Modern equivalent for rear lug nuts?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:20 pm
by 6x6 Dinosaur
Cat Man wrote:Bill's advise is good. Get on eof the combination impact sockets for Budd rims.

The thimbles (inner nut) and outer nust are the same ar the M-35 series trucks. If you absolutly can't get one looose and have to torch it off, I have some late model take off extra's. PM me

Cat Man
What good timing! I was actually able to get them off today. I bought a budd socket from my local auto parts store about a week and a half ago and I just bought a 1'' impact wrench and a 1/2 hose from my local Harbor freight today and while my compressor could barely keep up it popped those suckers off easy as pie! Thanks though.

Re: Modern equivalent for rear lug nuts?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:23 pm
by John V Cliche
With bigger trucks comes the need for bigger tools :wink:
BTW brand new 'nuts and thimbles" ( L&R ) can be pick-up at your local NAPA...although thier appearance is slightly different from the WW2 models.

Hope this helps
John

Re: Modern equivalent for rear lug nuts?

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:24 pm
by 6x6 Dinosaur
John V Cliche wrote:With bigger trucks comes the need for bigger tools :wink:
BTW brand new 'nuts and thimbles" ( L&R ) can be pick-up at your local NAPA...although thier appearance is slightly different from the WW2 models.

Hope this helps
John
I think a 3/4;; wrench would have been enough but I used the issue as an excuse to get the 1'' because I have always wanted an impact that big. :D

I think my independent auto parts store has the thimbles and nuts too. I think all they need is a cleaning and they are good to go. I'm a bit worried though, I did strip one on the front and I'm not sure if it is fixable. My dad seems to think it is but I'm not sure.