GMC CCW

Nicholas · Post by **Nicholas** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:25 pm

Hi, I am new to this Forum, but have had a 353 for some time. I have a question about the data plate. It is a 6x6 (mechanical front drive), however, the data plate shows it to be a CCW and 6x4 5 ton. I bought it from a farmer who got it out of a military surplus. Any ideas about this, wrong plate, experimental, etc?
Thanks
Nick

mud-snow · Post by **mud-snow** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:37 pm

You might have got a 6x4 truck, and that is a lucky find!!
But of course it also might be the cab that has ended up on a 6x6 CCKW.
You need to find the serialnumber and post it here, then we can help you to determine if it is a CCW.
If it is, it should not be to difficult to rebuild it backt to 6x4 configurations.

Good luck with your finding

Chers

Rolf

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:58 pm

After some 60 years a lot of modifications have been made to these old trucks. Some civilian and some military. I agree with Mud-Snow, it appears that it may have had a cab transplant, but one never knows. Welcome to the site. There are a great bunch of guys here and lots of great information is passed around.

Bill_Wolf · Post by **Bill_Wolf** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:19 pm

The serial number should be stamped on the Frame inbound of the right front wheel.

Getting that will answer alot of questions.

Bill

Nicholas · Post by **Nicholas** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:14 pm

I checked the frame and it has CCW 353 20962 stamped. The axles are banjo style. All of the Data plates for transmission and transfer case are in the cab. Let me know if there is any other info I should look for.
Thanks for the help.
Nick

Bill_Wolf · Post by **Bill_Wolf** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:20 pm

Does that match the serial number on the Data plate?

Dr. Deuce are the frames different on the driving and non-dirving front axle?

Bill

Nicholas · Post by **Nicholas** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:30 pm

This is the same as the data plate. If it was converted it was a good job. Nothing looks hacked on it.
Thanks
Nick

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:14 am

Hi Nick,

It sounds like you have a genuine CCW which has later been converted to 6+6. they are a rare truck.

Can you post some pictures?

Matt.

mud-snow · Post by **mud-snow** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:42 am

Congrats Nicholas!!
A realy exceptional finding!

And the frame is the same (I'm quite sure).
And the non driven front axel is the same as used on many civilian trucks of the late 30's, so it sould not be to hard to find. It was also used on other non driven front axel trucks made for the army
The question is the "spacers" used betweene the I-beam and the springs. I am not sure if they are common today.
What abouth the transfercase? Is it locked in high range?
It was delivered on contract W-398-QM-11596 and the serialnumber suggests nov - des 1942

Chers
Rolf

Nicholas · Post by **Nicholas** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:29 pm

I am unsure how to post pics, just direct me how to do it and I will put some up.
Nick[/img]

dr deuce · Post by **dr deuce** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:00 pm

According to the GMC Master Parts Book, the frame on the CCW is different from any version of the CCKW. I have a suspicion that it may be because there are no hi-low and FWD shift levers and brackets/holes.

The front axle is different from any GMC (2x4, & 2x6) trucks listed in this book.

The xfer case (from memory) has a few parts left out and a spacer inserted. There is no hi-low range. It is blocked out.

There is/was a CCW over this way

Chris T. · Post by **Chris T.** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:18 pm

I may be able to run over to Eagle Field this weekend and take some photos of the two CCW's there, if it will help you Nicholas. At one time there were 5 CCW's that I knew of around here. All but the ones at Eagle are gone now.

Later,

mud-snow · Post by **mud-snow** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:51 am

The front axel is a Timken product, model 31116-H-X4

Rolf

Nicholas · Post by **Nicholas** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:27 pm

Ok I have a few pics, Bill is going to post them. I didn't put any pics of the box(off an M35 that we bobbed). Overall its in pretty good shape, rust is common in this area and it was used with a feeder wagon on it for years. I think it will be a good starting point for a restoration.
Thanks Bill.
Nick

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:11 pm

Thanks for sharing. You have an excellent starting point truck for your restoration That is a good looking truck and it will be fun to have photos posted along with your all of your hard work for us to see the progress. You are truly bitten with the OD bug now.

The GMC CCKW

GMC CCW

GMC CCW

You might be very lucky!

you'v got it..

Timken