Hi to all and most probably been listed before but can anyone tell me the factory colour that my cckw 270 motor would have been ??????????
i know ancilleries would have been black!!!!! many thanks...
kevin
52 M38 Willy's
Former owner and restorer of CCKW353 " Betty Boop"
proud father of a career Army officer/Blackhawk pilot/ War in Iraq veteran
Retired high school history teacher at Lt. Colonel Robert G. Cole CMH High School, Fort Sam Houston Texas
proud great grandson of four Confederate soldiers.
great great grandson of a War of 1812 veteran
great great great grandson of 2 American Revolutionary war veterans
Hi Kevin
You can find high temp engine enamals here in the states at;
Bill Hirsch www.hirschauto.com Bill's own brand
TP Tools www.tptools.com POR15 brand
In my opinion the "Austin Healy Green " is an exact match to the gloss olive green GMC used. However tints do vary.
I have used Hirsh paints on all my resto engines and the stuff is great to work with and has lasted well so far. It is a high solids paint, and therefore not cheap
I don't know of any suppliers "across the pond " but I'm sure you could certainly locate the "Austin Healy" green there
Hope this helps
John
42 Chevy G7117
44 Ford M20 armored car
44 CCKW 353 A1 660 gal Tanker
45 CCKW 353 B2 Air-portable
Ben Hur 1 ton trailer
MVPA#26900
Hi Kevin
The OD or Gray may not be completly wrong either.
The Factory color was Gloss Olive Green but heat and time would have "dulled " the finish
Joel Gopan had previously posted that some gov't rebuilds would have been gray , I have a spare 270 that was removed from a DUKW and that has remnants of gray paint on it as well.
I am unsure if the DUKWs had engine compartments painted gray or white, similar to armor
The "crate" engines I have seen are black but I suspect they are Norway returns, my split frame is a Norway return and it has a black engine also,as well as most of the under carrige.
Hope this helps
John
42 Chevy G7117
44 Ford M20 armored car
44 CCKW 353 A1 660 gal Tanker
45 CCKW 353 B2 Air-portable
Ben Hur 1 ton trailer
MVPA#26900
this is a decent picture of a engine taken from a Bolster Truck I purchased the engine from Kevin Kronlund of armycarsusa. Did not appear to be repainted but one never knows. Anywho...gives you a idea of the color
Mark Mason
Anderson, Indiana
GMC CCKW 353
MVPA #29624
As far as I know and been told:
Glossy OD color close to "English racing green" was the orginal GMC engine color used on both comercial and military engines.
As far as i know, this color was used until 45/46. This color was also applied on the clutch bellhousing, but not on the gearbox.
Engines rebuilt by Norwegian army was painted light gray.
(Norwegian rebulilt Drive train components was painted black)
Other NATO countries, or user of CCKW's may have used other colors such ac black, and darker shades of gray.
Regards
Last edited by Minnie on Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Thanks for that great insight into the post war painting of the trucks Minnie. That is excellent info.
52 M38 Willy's
Former owner and restorer of CCKW353 " Betty Boop"
proud father of a career Army officer/Blackhawk pilot/ War in Iraq veteran
Retired high school history teacher at Lt. Colonel Robert G. Cole CMH High School, Fort Sam Houston Texas
proud great grandson of four Confederate soldiers.
great great grandson of a War of 1812 veteran
great great great grandson of 2 American Revolutionary war veterans
Unknown to me.
But take in consideration that all NATO countries, including Austrailia. Austria, and Israel, used the CCKW. Therefore most armies did their own rebulid and probably there will be many tags of commercial firms and different army ordnance corps logos pinned to the CCKW engines...
ERGMA could be a french tag. If so you should find the name of a french city on the tag...
I often saw ERM tags on trucks what means "Etablissement Regional du Materiel", a sort of french military ordonance plant. So ERGMA could be a local plant where they rebuilt engines some years ago. Many Dodge WC and GMC have been rebuilt in France in the 60s and 70s...
A friend of mine has a can of nos wet olive.
It says on the label GMC engine paint.It is from 1942.
It would take a lot of thiner to use it.It's hard as a rock!!
Thanks but I doubt that # would do any good. I would think he could take the can of paint or a picec of the dry paint to a automotive paint shop and let them scan and analyze the paint to match the color.
good luck!
Mark Mason
Anderson, Indiana
GMC CCKW 353
MVPA #29624