Respraying.

UK Jack · Post by **UK Jack** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:46 am

Morning all.

It is pouring with rain down here in Dorset so I am going to sit down and draw up a plan of attack on the restoration of the Jimmy.

My deadline for having it sparyed and re canvased is the end of August as I have been invited down to Bovington Tank Museum for the end of season rally and road run.

So, I am going to start with the preperation for a new coat of paint

so I am going to start with rubbing the paint work down

The questios are; has anyone got any tips of where best to start and what to avoid, how long it will take

Yours rubbingly.

Jack.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:56 am

Hi Jack,

First of all when you are rubbing down your truck look for signs of original markings under the post war paint,I know a guy who has a 1942 CCKW-352 which he bought from Norway,when he started restoring it he found the original 29th Infantry Division markings it wore at the time of D-Day.it probably went ashore on D+1.you might just be lucky and find the unit markings on the bumpers and the hood number.

Some of the trucks from Norway have several thick layers of post war paint,this is why they are generally rot free,on the down side you wont get a very good finish unless you strip most or all of it off before respraying.if I were doing it I'd probably be looking at stripping it to bare metal but it's a lot more work and as you are working to a time limit might not be practical.

Use good quality paint!,there's a firm in the UK called Vintage paint,they are on the web.

Have you decided on unit markings if you don't uncover the originals? if you like I can help with details of US army units based in your area during
the war.

Are you doing the work undercover? makes it a lot easier if you are.if you don't have a building big enough look for a friendly farmer with a spare barn!!

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:58 am

Re-painting is a lot of work. Don't get into a big hurry. The hardest part is the sanding down and cleaning off of the older loose paint, if you are not going down to bare metal. Start at the top of the truck and work your way down when painting. The underside is the hardest part to shoot paint on, unless you have a lift . Good luck.

UK Jack · Post by **UK Jack** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:21 am

Thanks guys.

Didn't think there were any short cuts

but I do have a wife and three children and it is the summer holidays and they will have a lot of time on their hands

I do not intend on taking it down to bare metal. I don't want my truck to look better than it did the day it was made but I do want to restore it to a high class standard. I am lucking the fact that my brother in law is a first rate sprayer having work for Rolls Royce and some F1 teams.

The work will be done outside as we have no spare barns on the farm

but we will be moving soon where I can erect plenty of pole barns so long term it will be ok. Underneath the GMC it is covered in oil, I am in good mined to leave as such as this is great way to protect everything underneath.

With regards to the markings, I am thinking on that one, as me being me, I will go for something completely different than the norm, it would have to be something that I can educate people on and I am drawn to the enginnering/support side of thing and the US enginner corps where based in my neighbouring viilage.....

We are pretty spoilt for choice here in Dorset as we had some many troops based here before D-Day, we have the world famous tank museum down the road, we have RAF Tarrant Rushton which dropped and supplied most of the SOE into France and the gliders took of for D-Day and for operation Market Garden took of from here also.

The farmhouse here where I live was taken over by the British Commandos.

Any help Matt with the markings would be very much appreciated.

Cheers.

Jack.

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:37 pm

Have fun and good luck.

UK Jack · Post by **UK Jack** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:03 am

I am thinking if useing paint stripper to get into the real difficult places, I am thinking that this would save me a shed load of time......

My deadline is to have it done by the end of August, but is hasn't stop raining all bloomin week!

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:10 am

Excuse my Texas ignorance, but I thought it rained most of the time in England.

Just kidding. Using the paint stripper is a good idea , especially in area's where a lot of paint has accumulated, like in seams and in corners.

UK Jack · Post by **UK Jack** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:18 am

armydriver wrote:Excuse my Texas ignorance, but I thought it rained most of the time in England. Just kidding. Using the paint stripper is a good idea , especially in area's where a lot of paint has accumulated, like in seams and in corners.

LOL you are just about right, it is summertime here and I am still waiting for the sun to shine

Just about to buy 200 bottles of paint stripper.............that should do it

dr deuce · Post by **dr deuce** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:01 am

I use paint stripper a lot.

It is temp sensetive. The hotter the day (usually) the better up to a point.

I use a metal coffee can and brush it on with a paintbrush.

I use a drill with a wire brush to get it off.

If there are many layers, you will have to use stripper a few times. It will tend to loose its effectivness the more you use it in the same place.

Keep water handy as you WILL get some on yourself.... It burns your skin but not like you would think.

If you are daring, use a pressure washer to get it off! There is still some paint in low earth orbit from me doing this years ago. Be prepared to take a bath with it and after a while you will want to have someone hold the washer wand while you move into the spray and take a shower. Directly on your skin, it burns. Mildly on your skin, it itches. With the pressure washer you will itch ALL over...

Steve AKA Dr Deuce

joel gopan · Post by **joel gopan** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:59 am

I took the long way around, and completely disassembled the CCKW down to a rolling chassis. the cab was reduced to about 60 pieces, all components sand blasted, it was a good two years before the CCKW started to look normal. While it was down, all moving parts were serviced, and brakes were reconditioned to spec. I just wanted to get it over with, and aim for "turn key" operation. No matter what route is taken, it is a lot of work.
Joel

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:31 am

I did the same, but then I did not have much of a truck to start with to take down.

Brent Delaney · Post by **Brent Delaney** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:36 am

Gidday Jack,

Is the paint flaking off, or is it just dull and chalky the reason I ask is that a friend of mine has a Jeep, and his paint had dulled off so bad he considered a respray. What he did instead and which I was most impressed with was to rub the entire vehicles paint work (body panels)
with linseed oil

.

I think that it could be worth considering due to your time limits, after all it is just one more show, then you can use the paint stripping method at your leisure.

Just a thought.

Cheers and Beers,

Brent Delaney.

UK Jack · Post by **UK Jack** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:33 am

Hi Brent.

Good thinking.

The truck is in wonderful condition but is a mustard yellow colour

and it has been hand painted and is flaking off.

My brother in law who be spraying estimates that it will only take a day to spray it so not to much of a problems there ( once I have rubbed it down).

It doesn't need a chassis up restoration as it is such good condition and I don't want it to look like it had just come out of museum.

bobc · Post by **bobc** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:17 am

If it keeps raining use wet/dry sand paper and go to work,at least you won't have to keep rinsing your sand paper! Just kidding,what ever you decide on be sure to let us have a look once it's said and done.Good luck!

UK Jack · Post by **UK Jack** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:31 am

Ok guys.

Have been thinking about what I am going to do and here is the plan ( might change over time!).

Rub the jimmy down now and have it sprayed and do what I have to do just so I can get to some of late summer shows. I can then take my time and perhaps go for a rebuild over the winter months and then have it completely reading for the spring.

I have used a bottle of paint remover today and done some sample patches.....

So far I have found 8, yes that's right, 8 different colours

It seems that the original colour was a dark mat green, the next layer is a gloss green...........

I haven't found any US markings yet as it looks like they were removed sometime ago as I have taken parts of it ( where makings should be) down to the metal and all there is, is a load of sandpaper/wire brush markings...................

Right back to it

Cheers

Jack

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:33 am

Thanks for the update and good luck with your hard work.

The GMC CCKW

Respraying.

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