Early GMC CCKW 352 Data Plate

[Steve]

Hi,
I am new to the forum and will be picking up a 1941 closed cab 352 when it has been restored. I posted this query on the Dodge site but could not upload the picture for advice on whether the date of manufacture was correct and stamped properly in the correct format.As you can see the chassis number is quite early and it does not quite tie up with the date of delivery . I asked Joel to look at this on the dodge forum so perhaps now there is a picture he can give me his opinion obviously with anyone else. I also attach a photo of the truck before it was stripped to the chassis - again lease see photo. Steve

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[Bill_Wolf]

Steve,

Nice looking truck good luck with it.

There are a couple of people on here who have the serial number build sequence by month. They should be able to help you with that.

I am sure they will chime in.

Bill

[John V Cliche]

What does the frame number say ? the same as the data plate ?
Nice lookin' ride

John

[Bill_Wolf]

Looking at this again.

My plate only has "6-45" as the delivery date.

I question the sequence of dating used in the stamping. Not usually what was done here in the states.

Anybody have a picture of their 41 plate?

Bill

[John V Cliche]

I can't what color plate is in the posted photo, but I believe the original would have been brass as well

Hope this helps
John

[Steve]

I believe the plate is a zinc like material does not appear to be brass - the frame number ties up with the data plate. Just wonder if this is a restrike carried out when being refurbished? I also attach a photo of the frame number. Regards Steve

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[John V Cliche]

I agree with you on the "restrike"
The date on my plates is only "month / year" same as Bill's
The re-build tag ( stateside ) is also dated with the same "month / year " format

Hope this helps
John

[Steve]

In view of the confirmation of the chassis number is there anyone who can tell me what the approx date of manufacture should be and is it a series 1 vehicle?
regards Steve

[Steve]

Some more pictures if they are of interest.Steve

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[dr deuce]

I believe that the dataplate is incorrect for that vintage truck. It would have said manufactured by Yellow Truck and Coach div of GM

March 1941 was when it was made according to the sn

6999 trucks were made that month.

It is one of the 1st banjo axled trucks

[Steve]

Thanks for the information - I think I was right to query the dataplate, it has obviously been made up using a blank data plate either by a previous owner or by mistake after refurbishment by the military (possibly european). How hard is it to get a repro or original data plate with the correct manufacturer etc? Regards Steve

[John V Cliche]

Repros are avail. although maybe only in zinc ????
Frank vonRosenstiel ( in Ontario Canada )is the only one that I know...but they maybe avail thru other vendors as well.
I found an NOS(blank ) brass data plate for a 352 with winch at a show in Pa last year, Marv Cooper was the vendor he advertizes in Supply Line ( classifieds )he may have other plates ?????

It would also appear that even tho' your truck went thru some sort of re-hab it looks like it fortunately kept several of it's correct "( early) " model spotting features ie small fuel fill, logo grill, semetrical grill guard, blk out headlite mount on top of guard, master cylinder location, is the smaller sized battery under the "co-drivers " feet ? as well.

Hope this helps
John

[Bill_Wolf]

There is also a member of the board, who I think is from Poland, who does repro plates.

He goes by the username of Lt.Horne.

Bill

[Steve]

Thanks to everyone for their input - I would be grateful for anymore information on what tools etc it should carry. Regards Steve

[John V Cliche]

One of the items you should have is the TM ....and it the TM you will find the complete on board tool and spares list.
It is avail repro thru Portrayal press , there maybe other sources nearer to you as well.
Are you going to be part of the 514th group ?

Hope this helps
John

[Steve]

John you are right I should invest in the TM - I should know this! - as for the 514th Group, not sure I have a friend who is part of that group so it is a possibility.

Has any member of the forum the same year and model as the truck I am getting - would be good to see some photos of a restored truck i would also like some idea of the bonnet number - is the one on the truck at present correct for the time of build?

Regards

Steve

[dr deuce]

The hood number would start with a W and I believe it would be in blue. I may be able to give you a range of hood numbers, but unless you find one on the hood by sanding, you can never be sure. Even then, the hood may have been swapped.

[Steve]

I would be grateful for some idea of the number range as the present bonnet number is W 4158627 - S - which is possibly wrong as per the data plate. Regards Steve

[Didier A.]

Hello
The Registration Number 4158627 is a CCKW-353 LWB.

Your number of chassis (25628) is part of a series of 2.334 trucks (24189 to 26522)
Contract W-398-QM-9095.
It was manufactured in March/April 1941.
Its Registration Number is included with W-440270 and W-448519.

Didier A.

[Steve]

Thank you I thought the bonnet number would be wrong, the information should give me some idea what it should be. Regards Steve