WOOD CARGO BODIES DIFFERED

joel gopan · Post by **joel gopan** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:21 am

There were several manufacturers and tens of thousands of them manufactured, if one were to do the math it would add up to over 60,000 wood bodies on just the Closed Cab version. in 42/43. Not all were 100% the same. One difference is the manner in which the rear mud flap was braced. There were specificationd for the wood to be used at various locations of the body
Some manufacturers chose to use laminated Frame sills and cross sills, etc., hardwood and softwood were interchangeable on some components. Steel Cargo bodies returned in late 44 as composite with wood floors.
The Wood Cargo Body was heavier.
Joel

joel gopan · Post by **joel gopan** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:04 am

Some had Guide Reflectors, others had the Tiger Eye "marble" type.
Joel

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:21 am

Joel, do you have any references that might list the various manufacturers of the wood bodied cargo boxes?

joel gopan · Post by **joel gopan** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:59 am

Many many Furniture,Musical Instrument, and Appliance makers. you are looking at over a couple hundred thou. and millions of Carriage Bolts.
Troop Racks also fit the Steel Bodys.
Joel

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:07 pm

Would the steel parts for the wooden bodies be subcontracted or did the manufacturers of the complete bodies make these steel components along with the carrage bolts? I know of Montpielier and Balwin Piano as manufacturers and any other names would be very helpful.

joel gopan · Post by **joel gopan** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:01 pm

I believe that you will find that all hardware was sub contracted. It would be nice to find a Bill of Materials for a complete body.
Joel

arnee · Post by **arnee** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:21 pm

One new to the list: Haywood-Wakefield.

Arne

arnee · Post by **arnee** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:29 pm

And from my source there should be 37 manufacturers.

Arne

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:14 pm

Thanks arnee, I am trying to compile a list of all that were involved in the wooden bodied cargo boxes, including the fastner providers and metal parts providers.

dr deuce · Post by **dr deuce** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:59 pm

There were some differences in the steel brackets used that I discovered from the pile I got in NJ.

The people who have used them had to make sure they got all the same types.

They also had a bracket that was for grounding the tail lights to the chassis.

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:31 am

Thanks Doc for that information. I hope to construct a very good article on these boxes and the steel hardware. It is interesting to find out about the grounding bracket.

jhscpa · Post by **jhscpa** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:44 pm

I wonder if the picture is possibility a wood/steel composite by the way the side panel is attached to the front panel and/or the corner reflector?
In other words, how do you tell difference in the looks of an all steel cargo body from a wood/steel composite besides having a wood floor or steel floor? I know the bottom picture is all wood.

Please see http://www.cckw.org/cckw_articles.htm - top picture.

Bill_Wolf · Post by **Bill_Wolf** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:54 pm

I was under the impression that there are 3 bodies.

All Steel

All Wood

Composite Steel frame and sides with Wood plank flooring with steel strips between the planks.

My CCKW has the Composite body.

Bill

armydriver · Post by **armydriver** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:43 pm

That is my understanding also. All steel, composit steel and wood and all wood with metal supports and a whole lot of carriage bolts. It is amazing that with the few metal parts I have they used different size heads on the carriage bolts in particular positions.
Also square nuts on all bolts with the exception of the tie downs on the bed sides. They used a nut that had pointed ears that would sink into the wood with the head side of the screw on the outside.
The stake pockets were attached with the carriage bolt head on the inside, the square part of the bolt going into the wood and the square nuts on the outside.

jhscpa · Post by **jhscpa** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:59 am

A copy of a PM to Arnee. Thanks for the posting of the picture. That's information I am trying to find about the wood/steel composite cargo body. I believe my Dad played a major role in the design, as he did in the wood cargo:

Montpelier - trucks
http://community.webshots.com/album/381366861mpZxdk
Wallace1212 - CCKW
http://community.webshots.com/user/wallace1212
Wood/steel composite
http://206.173.193.11/album/170727114FehJvE

Thanks again,
Jim Schwartz
jhscpa@sbcglobal.net

P.S. By chance do you have other pictures 0f the wood/steel composite?

The GMC CCKW

WOOD CARGO BODIES DIFFERED

WOOD CARGO BODIES DIFFERED

Wooden body manufacturer

Wood cargo manufactures

Wood/steel Composite??

Wood/Composite