REPRO LWB SPARE TIRE BRACKETS?

[joel gopan]

Never hoppen.
There are some things that were never meant to be made again.

This CCKW Critical Parts List List will grow. There are other rare parts that do show up tho, but the following are in demand and few to be found. It is 66 years into History and some parts are no longer to be found.

CCKW Steering Wheels
Zenith Cast Iron Carburetors
Zenith Die Cast Carburetors
CCKW Wheels
DELCO Gauges
CCKW Head Light Buckets
CCKW Seats
WWII Jeep Trailer Lunettes(just had to include these) as many have tried.
Repro WWII Head lite Bulbs, it fizzled
New Production CCKW Cargo Body
Banjo Transfer Cases
Correct 1" and 1 1/2" Buckles for the web straps
New Fuel Pumps (original AC Type)
Fenders
Delco Horns
Heaters
Banjo Torque Rods
Trunion Bar Seals(Late)
Windshields Open/Closed Cab
Front Banjo Wheel Seals
Fresh Bendix Hydrovac Kits for 1st/2nd Series
NOS Mufflers
Original NOS GMC Hoods made in USofA
NOS Open Cab Doors made in USofA
LWB Spare Tire Brackets
SWB Spare Tire Brackets
Exhaust Manifolds
NOS Mirror Arms
Troop Rack Hardware
Floor Inspection Plugs

[armydriver]

Only money will tell. I understand that now they are reproducing the German WWII jerry cans with authentic markings and passing them off as originals. I realize that the amount invested is nothing compared to reproducing a CCKW cargo bed, but somewhere, if enough money is to be made on reproducing something and the demand is there there will probably be someone that will do it.

[joel gopan]

Dream on, it ain't gonna happen. Time will prove it.

[armydriver]

I did not know that you had a crystal ball , Joel. I still say if enough money is envolved and there is a market, it will happen. Just basic economics. If there is a demand, there will be a supply.

[Matt]

It's very much a regional thing,most of the parts Joel lists can be bought in Europe without too much looking,when the supply dries up there will probably be money spent on getting repros made,but why bother when originals can be found?

Matt.

[armydriver]

You are right Matt and like in the jeep market, paractically everything for an MB or GPW is now reproduced and someone had to make the investments to start the manufacture, because there was a ready market. it is purely demand and supply at the right price. If there is a big enough demand for any part of a CCKW that someone is willing to invest in the tooling it takes to reproduce the part and a profit can be made, it will be made. The more CCKW's that are brought from Europe back to the U.S. the bigger demand for the parts that are missing or 20 years will be missing.

[Bill_Wolf]

If money can be made these items will be reproduced.

With the advent of lazer cutting, water jet cutting, and computer control anything can be done for a price.

A year ago when the company that was making the reproduction rubber coated cables to hold the growsers together on M-29 C weasel tracks went out of business and the molds were destroyed everyone was saying that is it..the end of the Weasel.

Now a company in Albany NY is supposedly releasing a Weasel track that is identical to the original. New growsers, new guides, modern rubber composites and cables for longer life. The only drawback is the price at $8,000 per pair.

If the money is there it will be done.

Bill

[dr deuce]

When I 1st bought a couple Denman 7.50 x 20 tires, I happend to luck out that they were making a run of them. They only made a run once a year. That was back when I had the only CCKW within 75 miles on the road. Now, with lots of CCKW's and Cheby's on the road, they are available all the time. You don't have to wait for a production run. The demand created the availability!

[joel gopan]

Who has CCKW Spare Tire Brackets for sale that have been shipped back from overseas recently. Who is offering them in Europe? Who is waiting to buy one, and if they were offered tomorrow, would you really buy one? What does Kevin Kronlund get for them? Many are not willing to pay a reasonable price for imported surplus parts. If there were any floating around it would have been posted over the past year. I will buy some for resale, but only with a non refundable deposit. The brackets are one of the most sought after part, and surely would be active conversation on this site were they available.

[pfarber]

So i guess I should stop working on the CAD files for the brackets?

Good thing I don't take all of your advice

CNC time has come down in price to very affordable levels, less than $1/min in some areas.

Brackets are available..... hard part it getting the money to the sellers. Most don't take a CC and whos gonna put up a couple $100 and hope they get something in the mail?

[joel gopan]

Lets see names addresses and prices where these are presently available over in Europe. As for manufacturing, I have 35 years in dealing with Foundries and Metal Fabricators, and have good perception for reality. It is human nature when one produces the goods as promised that the interested parties often evaporate. I accumulated one Hell of a lot of jeep and army truck parts learning the hard way by not getting a deposit. If the brackets were a reasonable product to have manufactured and stock up on, with a profit margin that will allow them to sit on a shelf, I am sure dealers such as John Bizal would have them available. Gotta tell ys, there were many special components, machining, bending, welding, and heat treating steps to manufacture the 25+ individual parts that comprise the CCKW Carrier Assembly. Any one interested in making a batch? Human nature is funny, take eBay for example. A junk CCKW comes up for $1600.00 and people salivate, but when the Clean and complete one in Michigan with spare engine and winch was going for a few dollars more,($2291.66 to be exact) the same crowd mellowed. Human nature is funny. Again, where is it in Europe that the Spare Tire Brackets are available?

[armydriver]

All things can come with time and money. Again I say, someone will manufacture reproductions when people are willing to pay the price that will allow for production and a profit. As Doc said, who thought the tires would be so plentiful 10 years ago.
It seems to me in past posts there was talk of French and Norwegian manufactured beds and spare parts for the CCKW's when so many were in service in Europe. They, in a sense, are reproduction parts as they were not manufactured by GMC or the suppliers in the U.S. during the war.
Profit is a big motivator .

[joel gopan]

I knew I would draw fire. Those CCKW Cargo bodies were for the Military with deep pockets. There will never be a collectors market that will support putting the CCKW Cargo Body back in production,
there are always some who will lament that they could not travel to the fleamarket on the opposite coast to purchase that $300.00 Steering Wheel, and there will always be the collector who jumps on an airliner to Europe to search for that rere $5.00 Dipstick Bracket, and does not mind paying $200.00-$300.00 to ship a shabby spare tire Bracket across oceans to his home. Again, names and addresses, please, of those european dealers with the plentiful rare CCKW parts.

[Matt]

Many dealers here have both cargo bodies and spare wheel brackets from time to time,Rex Ward and William Galliers to name just two.in Europe complete trucks are not expensive,I was offered two complete 353's in France a couple of months ago,asking price £1500 UK pounds for the two.both had spare wheel brackets,one had a wooden bed the other metal.

A complete cargo bed in the UK will set you back maybe £350.

Matt.

[joel gopan]

Who in Europe stocks NOS: Fenders, Closed and Open Cab doors, Mufflers, Mudflaps, fuel tank necks, floor Inspection Plugs, Ignition Coils, Radiator Caps, Horns, Carburetors, steering wheels, AC Guages, Seat Cushions, Reflectors, Brake/Clutch Pedals, Battery Box Covers, Winch Chains, Windshields?

[armydriver]

Maybe not NOS but some of it is easily reproduced, like the mud flaps. There is a guy in Sweden reproducing the mud flaps. They are not the spring steel , like the originals, but serve the purpose and look great. I have a set my friend in Sweden sent me and they serve the purpose quite well.

[armydriver]

Maybe not NOS but some of it is easily reproduced, like the mud flaps. There is a guy in Sweden reproducing the mud flaps. They are not the spring steel , like the originals, but serve the purpose and look great. I have a set my friend in Sweden sent me and they serve the purpose quite well.

[Matt]

Who in Europe stocks NOS: Fenders, Closed and Open Cab doors, Mufflers, Mudflaps, fuel tank necks, floor Inspection Plugs, Ignition Coils, Radiator Caps, Horns, Carburetors, steering wheels, AC Guages, Seat Cushions, Reflectors, Brake/Clutch Pedals, Battery Box Covers, Winch Chains, Windshields?

NOS sheet metal isn't around but it's possible to find very good used.closed cab doors are a problem though..

Most eletrical parts such as starters,coils etc are easy enough,Delco Remy horns too.

Matt.

[joel gopan]

Still no names and addresses of these easy to find European vendors. I am talking NOS. There is no reason those dealers over there with plentiful NOS CCKW parts could not offer their wares on this site.(it just takes a moment to post) They all like money, and small parts are simple to send. I just shipped a NOS Master Cylinder Inspection plug(the Domed Tin Plug in the CCKW Floorboard) to Europe for less than $2.00 Air Mail

Joel

[pfarber]

milweb.net

All your CCKW parts by the square meter! Shipping SUCKS, but hey, you want the part you pay the price.

No disrespect to you Joel, as you are a very, very well respected and knowledgeable CCKW owner, but not the only source of CCKW parts on the planet.

WWII items always seem to be more rare than they actually are. WWII M-2 tripods were 'all but gone'... till boatloads starting showing up again. Same thing with 1919 parts. Just because they are not on e-bay doesn't mean they are not out there. Some parts are truely gone forever..... others are simply waiting to be discovered in some remote corner of a warehouse.