Dating my CCKW

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Dating my CCKW

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I would like to estimate the manufacturing date of my truck. The frame number is CCKW 73186 - B1. It's a closed cab, split axles, no winch, cargo body. (Note that B1 would say it HAS a winch, but it don't).

I think it's from early 1942. I would like to know about wich month. can anybody help me?

:arrow: Note: I probably don't have the original grid, black-out light, etc... mounted on it, so it cannot help me.

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1942 GMC CCKW 353 cargo closed cab with steel bed
1943 Dodge WC 63 (6x6)
1944 Jeep Willys
1943 steel Ben Hur trailer
194? 1 ton Buffalo water trailer
194? 1/4 ton Bantam trailer
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Post by dr deuce »

Feb 42 accoring to my information.

Nice looking truck!

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1942 CCKW closed cab shopvan
1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
1944 CCKW open cab LeRoi Kompressor
1944 CCKW open cab F1 Aircraft fueler tanker
1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
1942 Chev cargo
1942 Chev K51 Panel
1944 Chev M6 Bomb Truck
1942 GPW Jeep
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Post by Ledog »

Thanks Deuce!
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1942 GMC CCKW 353 cargo closed cab with steel bed
1943 Dodge WC 63 (6x6)
1944 Jeep Willys
1943 steel Ben Hur trailer
194? 1 ton Buffalo water trailer
194? 1/4 ton Bantam trailer
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Post by armydriver »

That is a good looking truck.
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My Dodge too

Post by Ledog »

Hi!

I would need to date my Dodge WC 63 too.

Maybe some of you also have knowledge about Dodge and can tell me wich month of 1944 mine was issued. :?:

My serial number is listed in the Emile BECKER book. I don't know how he got it as I had to scrap the paint to find it on my truck.

Number is 82028352. Becker only says it's from 1944.

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1942 GMC CCKW 353 cargo closed cab with steel bed
1943 Dodge WC 63 (6x6)
1944 Jeep Willys
1943 steel Ben Hur trailer
194? 1 ton Buffalo water trailer
194? 1/4 ton Bantam trailer
Link to see my vehicules: http://ledog.forumgmc.com
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Dodgey dates.

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You can get the original build card for any WW2 US built Dodge from Daimler Chrysler,there is a charge (about $25.00) but it's worth it.this will give you the day,month,year your Dodge was built,the military date of delivery that would be on the data plates would be a little later.

I don't have the address to hand but can get it for you.

Hope the miror arm worked ok?

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Post by Ledog »

Thanks Matt,

I will be interested in this address for Daimler Chrysler.

I thank you very much again for the miror arm.
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1942 GMC CCKW 353 cargo closed cab with steel bed
1943 Dodge WC 63 (6x6)
1944 Jeep Willys
1943 steel Ben Hur trailer
194? 1 ton Buffalo water trailer
194? 1/4 ton Bantam trailer
Link to see my vehicules: http://ledog.forumgmc.com
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Post by Degsy »

A friend has recently bought an early cckw 352 chassis no 41182 B1,can you look up your records for a build date Dr Deuce please ?



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Post by dr deuce »

Late May 1941


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1942 CCKW closed cab shopvan
1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
1944 CCKW open cab LeRoi Kompressor
1944 CCKW open cab F1 Aircraft fueler tanker
1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
1942 Chev cargo
1942 Chev K51 Panel
1944 Chev M6 Bomb Truck
1942 GPW Jeep
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Post by Degsy »

Thanks for the info Steve, much appreciated.


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ID my truck

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DR.Duce, this one is for you, I have a 41 SWB 352 NO#37051 B1, and I have bought another one that looks exactly like it, only the the markings are cckw X353 NO#7189, and the ongilal title says it was purchased on 8-4 1948 but the titles says it's a 1940, and the titles has a big black stamp acrossed it saying BODY CHANGE, I have been told that the 1940 was still with the civilian front clip, can you explain.
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CCKWX

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Hi,
Your CCKWX is a 1940 truck.the cab and front end would look basically the same as any closed cab CCKW with some minor detail differences.does it have the round military dials or the civilian style dash?

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Post by mmoore »

Matt. I tryed to tell a couple of guys that while I was in Duluth, they said it had to be with the civilian front end, I told them no but the dash did have the civilian dash, thats the only difference I can see. My 41 can be seen on the vehicles of victory site if interested.. hopefully I can get pictures of both truck on this site, as I think this site is the best, if you love the cckw as I do..
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CCKWX

Post by Matt »

There are several differences between a CCKWX and the later closed cab CCKW's.the hood hinges,brush guard,brake system plus other things.

The truck with the civvy front end is the ACKWX of which very few survive.

It would be nice to see some pictures of your trucks on this site,especially some detail pics of the CCKWX.

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Jan.1943 CCKW LeRoi Compressor.
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Post by dr deuce »

The ACKWX also has a different cab from any of the CCKWs.

It does not have as much foot/leg room as the CCKW's

The Chev/GMC truck cab for 39-40 is different than the ones from 41-46. Many parts will interchange, but the front of the cab is quite different.


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1942 CCKW closed cab shopvan
1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
1944 CCKW open cab LeRoi Kompressor
1944 CCKW open cab F1 Aircraft fueler tanker
1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
1942 Chev cargo
1942 Chev K51 Panel
1944 Chev M6 Bomb Truck
1942 GPW Jeep
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Post by joel gopan »

I have one NOS 700X20 U.S. Royal Master Grip with flap that was used on the ACKWX and the Pre War GMC 4X4. It has the curved Bars as early Military treads used. It has been stored in a cool dark place for 60 years.
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early CCKWX

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Hi mmoore, I have truck # 4997 built 12/16/40,yours should be close,civilian dash and script on the grille! Is yours long or short,with or with out winch? It took me a while to figure it all out,I never would have had I not found this site,these are some great guys,with alot of knowlege and experience.
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Post by mmoore »

Hi Bob c, mine is the SWB, w/winch, of course with steel top, No. 7189 but the dod is 11-5-41 so I think that is kinda late being delivered, if it was built in 40, I also have the orginal title, when I applyed to the BMV for my new title, I was told by a perosnnel friend that works there, that I could get the orginal title back if I wanted, so of course I did. the title aso shows (model no. AC600 year 1940) don't understand the AC600. let me know what you think.....
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sn 4997

Built 11/ 40 according to my info


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1942 CCKW closed cab shopvan
1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
1944 CCKW open cab LeRoi Kompressor
1944 CCKW open cab F1 Aircraft fueler tanker
1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
1942 Chev cargo
1942 Chev K51 Panel
1944 Chev M6 Bomb Truck
1942 GPW Jeep
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dateing my cckw

Post by mmoore »

Bobc, according to the good Dr. my cckw x353 was built in Dec. of 40, which I was pleased to hear since the titles states it's a 40. Dr, Duce if your reading this, thanks much.
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